Aside from a car and a smartphone, a laptop or desktop computer is likely to be one of the largest purchases you’ll make. And so it’d be nice to be able to buy one that doesn’t go to subsidize the CCP.
If you Google “laptops not made in China”, you’ll see a lot of blogs (including this one). But even among all of us there are a lot of different recommendations and opinions. Sadly, in many cases, whether due to ignorance or willful misleading, some bloggers will cite brands like Apple and Dell as “not made in China”, which that’s not even close to being true.
Why There’s So Much Confusion Around “Country of Origin” with Computers
I thought this was going to be an easy category to research, but it turned out to be one of the toughest. I thought it’d be easy because there are so many famous non-China brands out there. Asus and Acer are both based in Taiwan. HP and Dell have storied histories in the United States. And yet even though none of them sold ownership of their company to China (as IBM did to Lenovo), all of them appear to rely 100% on China’s supply chain to some degree.
I am especially shocked at how quickly Taiwan-based companies not only allowed China to dominate manufacturing, but seem to be fueling and accelerating the process. I’m shocked because that it’s the CCP’s goal to “unify” Taiwan and China. And make no mistake–“unifying” doesn’t mean “one country, two systems”. Just ask Hong Kong how that went.
That said, there’s more to understanding what goes into your laptop than you can tell from the “Made In” label on the box. I used to be pretty knowledgeable about the PC industry, but I didn’t realize how the landscape has shifted so dramatically in just the last 5 years.
OEM vs. ODM
My knowledge of the personal computer industry dates back to the 1980s. As you might recall from Apple’s infamous “1984” commercial, Apple had it sights set on the IBM PC, but they were clueless back then that their real enemy was Microsoft. Apple kept tight control over its hardware and software designs, while Microsoft allowed its operating systems (first MS-DOS and then Windows) to be used on any hardware. IBM had a short-lived turn as the dominant player in the PC market, but as PC manufacturers like Dell, Gateway, HP built better mousetraps, IBM became just another player. In 2005, IBM sold its PC business to Lenovo, a company headquartered in Beijing.
Something else happened in the 2010s. PC technology became commoditized. Sure, there were still improvements being made to things like processor speed, but the basic construction of the “guts” of a PC was pretty much the same across every brand.
So PC companies that once manufactured their own equipment (Original Equipment Manufacturers, or OEMs) realized they could increase their profits by essentially allowing someone else to design and manufacture their brand’s products. They’d still slap their logo on the product, outfit it with some bells and whistles, and charge a premium price prior to shipping to consumers. But the foundation of the PC itself would be out of their hands and in the hands of an Original Design Manufacturer, or ODM.
Taiwan was at the cutting edge of this trend, and by 2011, 94% of all the world’s PCs started their life being manufactured by a Taiwan-based ODM. If you’ve purchased or used laptops from Acer, Alienware, Apple, Dell, Fujitsu, Gigabyte, HP, Lenovo, NEC, Toshiba, that PC actually was made by a Taiwan-based ODM, with names you probably haven’t heard, like Compal, Quanta, Wistron, Inventec, Pegatron, or Foxconn. In fact, Wiston spun off from Acer, and Pegatron spun off from ASUS.
All of the top ODMs are headquartered in cities like Taoyuan City and Taipei. If you’re not familiar with the difference between Taiwan and China, think of it this way. What if World War II had ended in a stalemate, and Hitler’s Third Reich were allowed to continue ruling one country called “the People’s Republic of Germany” while the current Germany ruled another country called “the Republic of Germany”? And furthermore, let’s say the “People’s Republic of Germany” continued to build their vast armies and asserted that the “Republic of Germany? was theirs and that they would “unify” with them one day, by force if necessary?
That’s pretty much the situation today. Which is why it’s mind-bogglingly crazy what these Taiwanese ODMs did. They moved all their manufacturing from Taiwan to China. Yes, the People’s Republic of China. They could have diversified by looking to other emerging market economies, but they saw cheap labor across the Taiwan Straits in China.
These Taiwan ODMs proceeded to invest billions of dollars into building manufacturing plants in China. It made a certain amount of sense logically. China was offering really cheap labor and resources, and it didn’t hurt that they spoke the same language. And yes, in the short run, the executives who made these decisions will get nice bonuses, and the shareholders of these companies will enjoy some nice profit margins.
But anyone with any understanding of history, especially those who live in Taiwan under the shadow of the People’s Liberation Army, should know that anything that the CCP allows ultimately benefits the CCP. And so while these Taiwan-based firms may think they’re in a equal partnership with China, ultimately the CCP holds the cards.
Some Hope
According to a poster on Quora, Pegatron is moving some of its manufacturing to Indonesia and Vietnam, Wistron to the Philippines, Malaysia, and Vietnam, Compal to Vietnam, and Quanta to Thailand. This is likely mostly due to the tariffs that the Trump Administration placed on China and which are being continued by the Biden Administration having positive effects (if you’re an American, write to your representative and tell them to support the tariffs–because you know the CCP is pouring millions of dollars into lobbying against them).
I do hope some of this movement is also also due to some of these Taiwanese companies waking up and realizing that when you play with a snake, eventually the snake will bite you. But the damage is largely done–there is so much sunk cost entrenched in China from American and Taiwanese firms paying billions to build infrastructure in China that it’ll be difficult to completely break free.
A Chilling Example of What Happens When the CCP Gets Its Feelings Hurt
Have you heard of a PC brand called Gigabyte Technology? It’s a Taiwanese company that makes motherboards, but also makes its own computers.
In May 2021, Gigabyte created a page on its Web site that talked about its products that were made in Taiwan. “Unlike other brands that’ve chosen low-cost, low-quality contract manufacturing in China, Gigabyte is devoted to creating outstanding, high-quality components and laptop computers.” They also touted the fact that 90% of its laptops are made in Taiwan.
Gigabyte was doing what it should be doing in a free market capitalist system–creating advertising that differentiates itself from its competitors. In this case the value proposition was a strong one–we spend more money to manufacture our parts outside of China so you can expect higher quality.
Immediately, the Web site caught the attention of the Community Youth League of China (an organization whose name should send chills down the spines of any student of history who has heard of the Hitler Youth). They posted a screenshot of the Web page to Weibo with a single line: “GIgabyte, where did you get so much courage?” The post was flooded with more taunting remarks. “”You don’t stand a chance any more. Seriously, don’t waste your energy. You have crossed the red line of the central government.”
All of their products disappeared from Chinese e-commerce sites overnight. Their stock price plummeted 20%. Gigabyte immediately took down the page and apologized in language so groveling it rivaled John Cena and LeBron James. They promised to examine themselves and to rectify their wrong actions. They expressed support for the disastrous “One China” policy and berates its “poor internal management”. Heads likely rolled, perhaps not just figuratively. The media didn’t help matters, claiming that Gigabyte “mocked China”. No, it was just marketing.
This is what happens to anyone who crosses the CCP or makes them “lose face”. But from my perspective, their original ad was enough to convince me to put them on the top of the “best laptop not made in China” list.
Best Laptops Not Made in China – Quick Ranking
1. Gigabyte Aero 17 – Best Overall
I’m not just putting Gigabyte here because they were bullied by the impish Communist Youth League. And I’m not even putting them here just because they are one of those companies who stubbornly refused to move their laptop manufacturing out of Taiwan. I’m putting them here because they make really impressive laptops. And it might be years (if ever) before you can buy a laptop that comes from an ODM that doesn’t have the taint of China manufacturing.
Specifically, Gigabyte has two lines of laptops. The AERO line is geared more to creators (but also suitable for gaming), while the AORUS line is geared more specifically to gamers. I wrote to them asking them to confirm which units are made in Taiwan. The answer is both. Here was their response, which I was very happy with.
The AERO 17 has received rave reviews from industry publications. TechRadar says it is “one of the most powerful mobile workstations for creative professionals you’re going to find”. Laptop Mag praises its speed and gorgeous 4K OLED display (the best display you can currently buy in a laptop) and its keyboard. PC Magazine raves at its performance, and also praises its screen and keyboard.
The AERO series comes in different configurations, and it’s kind of maddening how their naming conventions over the years have introduced a lot of confusion. Their distribution is also not as clean as it should be; it’s sometimes difficult to find the model you want in the configuration you want. But the key difference in pricing is going to come down to the processing power you want, the graphics card you want, and the display you want. Here’s a quick guide:
Screen Size – The number after AERO refers to its screen size: AERO 17 is a 17″ display, AERO 16 is a 16″ display, AERO 15 is a 15″ display, and AERO 5 is a 15.6 OLED display. Not confusing at all. I’m focusing mostly on the 17″ model for this review, but all other other units will be made in Taiwan too.
Processor – All AERO laptops will use an Intel i9 or Intel i7 processor. The latest models will have 12th generation processors. The highest end are i9-12900HK (running at speeds from 2.5GHz-5GHz) and the lower end will use the i7-12700H (running at 2.3GHz to 4.7GHz). You can still find units with 11th generation processors too.
Video Graphics – AERO laptops will use NVIDIA GeForce RTX, either the higher end 3080 with 16GB or the lower end 3070 with 8GB. I’m use the phrase “lower end” in a relative sense; even the lowest end on the new models blows away most previous models.
Memory and Storage – Typically you’ll see configurations with 16GB to 32GB of memory, and 1TB or 2TB SSDs for storage.
Like I said, their distribution to US retailers is kind of a mess, but if you arm yourself with knowledge you can not only find the unit you want, you can get a pretty good deal.
B&H Photo and Video seems to have the best organization of AERO laptops, the cleaning product listings, and are the most consistently in stock. Right now I see several 16″ units in stock, all the latest 12th generation Intel chips.
Best Buy also does a nice job of listing out the current models relatively cleanly; the titles of their products show the screen size + the CPU + the memory + the GPU + the hard drive. They sometimes have a hard time keeping things in stock because their prices tend to be competitive.
Adorama also has their Gigabyte AERO and AORUS lineup pretty well organized, with competitive prices.
And then there’s Amazon. Amazon’s listings can be really confusing, with names like GIGABYTE AERO 16 YE5 – 16″ 4K/UHD+ Samsung AMOLED, Intel Core i9-12900H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU 16GB GDDR6, 64GB DDR5 RAM, 2TB SSD, Win11 Pro (AERO 16 YE5-A4US958HP). Worse, often you have third party sellers who price gouge.
But if you know what you’re looking for, you might find a pretty good price. If you can find a model Shipped and Sold from Amazon.com, grab it. Otherwise, I’d suggest going to one of the other retailers above.
2. Vaio Z
If you haven’t been able to keep up with the changes in the laptop world in the past years, no one can blame you.
One of the bigger changes happened in 2014, when Sony exited the personal computer business. A new company named Vaio (named after Sony’s line of laptops) was spun out of Sony and sold (although Sony remains a minority stakeholder and still retains the intellectual property rights of the Vaio brand). The new company could do something Sony never could—focus. The new company wisely retained much of the engineering talent, and wisely put the focus back on engineering great products rather than the market share land grab that Sony had tried unsuccessfully to do. And very wisely, they kept their manufacturing in Japan. They initially limited their market to Japan only, but has since started expanding internationally again.
But as with Gigabyte, you won’t see Vaio’s name plastered all over the marketplace, as they focus more on actual differentiation through their products than through their marketing.
The Vaio Z is the premium, flagship model. PC Magazine raves at its ultralight (2.32 lbs) and sturdy design, an all-carbon fiber design that was clearly unique in a field of monolithic and bulky ODM designs and yet packs a punch with one of the most powerful processors available for a laptop. It’s one of the most powerful ultralight laptops you can buy. Windows Central calls the design “stunning”. You won’t find any laptops (or many desktops) that run Photoshop faster or have nearly as nice a 4K display as this one. If you’re a creative professional and you or your company have the budget for the best of the best, you won’t do much better than this.
The Vaio Z is not for everyone because of its premium pric, but Vaio does produce more affordable models like the SX14 and SX12 that are also engineered and manufactured in Japan. If you can find them on Amazon sold directly from Amazon.com or VAIO USA (run by Trans Cosmos American in California, whom Vaio has tapped to do their distribution), it’s safe. You can also find them at Adorama.
If you’re looking for solid Japanese construction over a China-made laptop that’s built for obsolescence, you’ll want to check Vaio out.
3. Panasonic Toughbook FZ-55
Panasonic produces four models of Toughbook laptops. They’re appropriately named. They’re specially designed for use in tough environments where they may need to withstand a lot of rough treatment. They’re generally available only through B2B channels for industries such as governmental agencies, public safety agencies, utilities, field service organizations, and construction. But some enterprising third party sellers do sell them to the public via Amazon.
At a time when made-in-China laptops are literally disintegrating before our eyes, it’s refreshing to see this kind of engineering, from the rock-solid display, to a case that protects from water and debris.
These are still made in Kobe, Japan. Here’s a fascinating video from a few years ago that shows their factory in Kobe for one of their older models. They’ve only gotten more powerful and more durable since.
3. Samsung Galaxy Book2
Back in 2020, Samsung announced that it was closing its last PC factory in China, on the heels of when it stopped making smartphones in China. Given Apple’s and Foxconn’s woes in China since, this will go down in history as an incredibly prescient move.
Surely enough, the newest models like this 15.6″ Galaxy Book 2 Pro and the equivalent 13″ model appear to be made out of Vietnam (there are some reports of units being made in South Korea, but those are likely going to their local market first).
I’m impressed by the speed at which Samsung exited China’s manufacturing across all their product lines, from their smartphones to their computers and even their accessories like ear pods. Yes, many of the components are still made there, but at least they’re taking one step away from total reliance on China as so many other industries have done.
Do you know of other laptops that have avoided the China trap? Let us know in the comments!
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Thanks a lot! Was trying to find this out on my own but I doubt that I would have managed to avoid the “Made in China” had it not been for your article!
Unfortunately, Vaio use parts manufactured in China.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Vaio-doubles-PC-production-with-supply-chains-reconnected
Yes, as I alluded to in my cell phone article (https://notochina.org/best-cell-phones-not-made-in-china/) it’s difficult to avoid electronics where at least some of the parts are made in China, especially cheap components. If I’m reading this article properly, Vaio relies on China for parts like LCDs, circuit boards, and connectors.
There are a few things that make me feel better about getting an “Assembled in Japan” product. First, it supports workers in Japan, not China. Second, the CCP can’t be tempted to sneak some firmware into the system. Third, at least some of the profit is not going to fund the CCP. And fourth, just these few brands represent the thin line keeping China from complete dominance of the PC manufacturing market.
But thanks for the comment–I hope one day we can find a laptop where no part touches China soil.
Probably, its mechanical parts like housings are made in China as you said, but the model type Z has been designed and assembled in Nagano, Japan as far as I know. It’s fair to say that It’s not made in China considering the fact that there are “OEM models”, which are assembled in China.
Unfortunately, as of 16 Dec 2021, GIGABYTE manufactures also in Chinese cities Ningbo and Dongguan.
Except from https://www.gigabyte.com/About :
Excellent Manufacturing
Based in Nanping in Taoyuan, Ningbo, and Dongguan, GIGABYTE’s production lines are both in good supply and quality rating, and the constant renewals of equipment and automation adaptations ensure innovation and a high standard of quality control
China and Taiwan are pretty much the same thing. The mainland is Peoples Republic of China and Taiwan the Republic of China!
Thanks for your comment, cloudy lemonade. Although I need to correct you a bit…
China and Taiwan could not be more different.
Starting in 1912, there was one China, called the Republic of China. It had one Nationalist government and one army.
In 1949, Mao’s Communists decided to wage civil war, and they attacked and defeated the Nationalist Army (a particularly sleazy move, because Mao’s forces were well-rested while the Nationalist army was decimated from fighting the brutal Japanese Imperial army). Mao took over mainland China, while the Nationalists fled to the island of Taiwan and established the Republic of China there.
Mao decided to rename mainland China the People’s Republic of China to differentiate himself from the Republic of China and to commemorate the communists’ takeover of China. But neither side ever surrendered to the other, which is why you have a 72 year stalemate that continues to today. The United States has been the #1 reason why China has not invaded Taiwan–when President Carter switched official recognition from the ROC to the PRC, Congress (thank God) passed some laws committing the USA to defending Taiwan.
Mao ruled mainland China with communist and socialist principles that resulted in the death and suffering of millions, through incompetence like The Great Leap Forward and tyranny like The Cultural Revolution. To this date, they have continued a deplorable record of human rights, from crushing protesters in Tienanmen Square, to outlawing freedom of religion and speech, to breaking its promises to keep Hong Kong free, to genocide of Uyghur Muslims, to allowing COVID-19 to escape its borders while locking down its own, to the most recent “disappearance” of tennis star Peng Shuai.
In the meantime, the Republic of China thrived and became one of the world’s leading economies. In recent years, they have moved to become a full-fledged democracy, with respect for human rights and freedom.
In a series of idiotic moves, American presidents from Nixon to Carter to Bush to Clinton gave recognition and most favored nation status to China despite its continued atrocities. They assumed that opening “free trade” to China would bring liberalism to China. But they didn’t count on the Chinese Communist Party controlling every aspect of this “free trade”. And China has taken advantage of the USA’s naivety, by having their huge population provide cheap (borderline slave) labor to US corporations, who breathlessly throw all of their manufacturing to China, too greedy to realize that they are trading away their companies and their industries for their higher stock prices and bonuses.
China would like nothing more than your statement to be true. They want to wait until the United States becomes so fat and lazy that it stands quiet while the People’s Liberation Army goes and “liberates” Taiwan. They want Congress to be so filled with people who are so rich from China’s money that they don’t say a word when that happens. Will it come to that? Let’s pray that it doesn’t, and let’s vote in representatives who still value freedom and democracy over their own personal riches.
So no, China and Taiwan are not the same thing 🙂 China is as different to Taiwan as Nazi Germany was to the Federal Republic of Germany or that Imperial Japan was to today’s Japan.
You have an excellent record of true history of Ccp.
I appreciate that you have this as part of your reply. I will say the difference between the Chinese Citizens of Taiwan values and economy and the chinese Citizens of China values and economy show the difference in only 70 yrs of Ccp domination . Clearly freedom dominates a Dictatorship.
Despite the Ccp of China given preferred business status including all the tax breaks and a further 25 yrs of continual gifted billions of dollars under Thirld World Country assistance program. Ccp is using the monies on making machines of war to attack the very Nations that helped them.
Well said thanks for setting the record straight for cloudy lemonade. Hopefully they update their world view.
Bravo! Well said. Sadly, the U.S. is probably a less freedom-respecting nation than Taiwan today.
Thanks for this reply. This is a great summary – perhaps you could call it an elevator pitch – of the problematic history that has led to where we are today. I encourage readers to take this short description of post war China-Taiwan conflict as a springboard from which to do further research. Look up things that Steve has referred to. Look up Great Leap Forward, The Cultural Revolution, and China’s One child only policy. The steps that Mao and the CCP’s taken to solidify and maintain their authoritarian grip on power are chilling to say the least.
China and Taiwan are not remote the same thing.
Very, very cloudy.
cloudy lemonade has not set his/her foot on China and Taiwan. They cant be more different countries. Taiwan is a free country with democratic elected government where China is a autoritharian dictatorship that allow no freedom to his own people and neither to their declared enemies. (like Taiwan)
Except one is a functioning healthy democracy & the other a murderous dictatorial hedgmony bent on ethnic cleansing world domination
Taiwan and China are not the same things. If you’re chinese 50 cent army bot good luck trying to fool those who know a bit more. If you’re not, read more before posting bs like this.
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Actually, I think Cloudy Lemonade’s statement is awesome, as it gave opportunity to show the history of Taiwan in face of China. A lot of people don’t know while there are some of us still around who remember the evolution of the two.
Its frustrating to look for any item on the market and not see a ‘made in China’ sticker. I
d almost take any product over them. `
Thanks for the report, Hardy. My understanding is that some of components are made in China, but that laptops are still substantially manufactured in Taiwan. But I’ll reach out to Gigabyte to confirm that this has not changed.
To your point, it’s troubling that on their About Us page they (of all companies) seem to lump Taiwanese and Chinese cities together–a year ago this same part of their Web site read “Based in Taiwan and China (Ningbo and Dongguan)”.
One wonders if Gigabyte had to remove any reference on their Web site to Taiwan being autonomous from China as “penance” for the incident above–and in order to preserve their access to cheap China labor. If so, this is a chilling development indeed.
Let’s see what Gigabyte comes back with. They may be toeing a very delicate line here.where they can’t piss off the thin-skinned CCP.
Did you ever get a reply from Gigabyte? I need a laptop and am trying to get one made in Taiwan.
Does anyone know where MSI manufactures their stuff? I know they’re a Taiwan-based company, and something I read about them a little while back gave me the impression that they made at least a significant portion of their products there. But now I’m seeing vague hints that at least some of their stuff is made in China, though I have not been able to find any hard info on this.
From what I have seen, Samsung laptops are now made in Vietnam.
Where are the Linux laptops like those of System76? System76 is a manufacturer in the USA specializing in Linux with their Linux distribution, PopOS!, based upon Ubuntu. Their manufacturing if I recall correctly is in Colorado or San Francisco, one of the two areas.
Unfortunately, this is not true. I just purchased a System 76 with PopOS! and thought it was Made in America per website. Upon unboxing (professional) it stated Made in China and Assembled in USA. Therefore, System76 is Made in China as well. I’ve started the return process. The company is professional and I hope that they read this and find it with good intent. However, with neurotechnology chips embedded in Made in China hardware, the risk is too great to purchase anything Made in China with the neurotech attack on the world, not just America.
I was really disappointed to find out that Lenovo is a Chinese company. I bought my old Chromebook from school several years ago, and it is now a bit more than 6 years old, and works better than my mom’s newer hp. It was an N22, and I dropped it many times and it never stopped working. The battery life is incredible too. I just lost it, and I need to get a new one because it will stop working in Jun when Google stops automatically updating it, which I think is a bunch of bogus. I went online to look for a good computer that will last a long time, and one not made in China. I do not have the money for one of the computers mentioned above, I want a workhorse that has a good battery life, and one where the company does not make it impossible to use after a while. I do not game, and the 4GB memory with 16GB eMMC flash memory worked for me, more would be nice, but not necessary. Any suggestions?
I just learned the same about Lenovo and am so disappointed.
Have you found a solution for replacing your computer with a non-made in China option? If so, I would much appreciate learning about it.
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately it’s practically impossible to avoid China 100%; the country of origin label doesn’t capture where all the components that go into a product are made, just where the final product is assembled. So even a “Made in Taiwan” laptop may have lots of parts of China. That said, it’s a start.
This list still represents the only computer brands I can find who are able to even put a “Made In” label on their product that’s not China. I’ll keep adding to it as I find more!
Just bought a Gigabyte laptop because this site said it was NOT MADE IN CHINA. It arrived today and is stamped MADE IN CHINA?!?!?!?!?!?
This is extremely disturbing to hear, especially given all the assurances from Gigabyte that their latest models are made in Taiwan.
Can you confirm which model you received (AERO 16, AERO 17, AORUS 15, AORUS 17, AORUS 17X) and that it was the latest chipset (Intel 12th Gen)?
The only thing I can think of is that maybe someone sent you an older model or you received a counterfeit. In either case, I would suggest you send it back and contact Gigabyte directly. They should be able to point you to a reputable retailer that sells the latest model that’s made in Taiwan.
If they give you the run-around, please post back here and I will have some serious words to say to them.
There are lower end series Gigabyte G. They have “Made in China” label on the back, you can check it on the marketplace websites posting actual product pictures.
The same for Vaio FE as sold by Walmart. Here is new “Made in China” sticker in FCC application:
electric.garden/e-s-international-enterprises-2aype/laptop-vwnr15amd
I doubt you can avoid China if you are looking for a regular commodity laptop. I think you need to update the text to make it clear it applies to specific more expensive models not to the whole product line of the brands. Then who knows how much of the product value is actually created outside of mainland China with final assembly elsewhere.
Hi Rich. Thanks so much for your comments. Sadly, you’re right that it’s nearly impossible at this point for a manufacturer to stay completely out of China.
No matter how principled a company might be, it’s simply impossible today to compete in a world where workers in China are paid slave wages and work in subhuman conditions, all with not just the approval but the encouragement of the centralized government.
It’s true that Gigabyte does a lot of business in China (they would never have been able to be bullied into silence if that weren’t the case). But I am pleasantly surprised at how they’ve been able to keep so much of their flagship models out of the CCP’s influence. I was a bit surprised to hear what you said about Vaio, but it’d make sense if they needed to mass produce some of their cheaper models in China just to stay competitive.
The one brand I’m more and more impressed by is Samsung. I’m shocked at how they’ve been able to diversify so many of their product lines out of China and still maintain high quality and competitive prices. Let’s hope others follow suit, especially as the CCP in its current arrogance continues to rattle its sabers.
Nice work done. What can be said about keyboards, mouses, or gaming chairs? I have tried quite hard but no luck…
Where are the legions of neckbeards and entrepreneurs now that we need them more than ever? If any of you are out there reading this, I’m calling you out. You guys are supposed to stand for something. And for how many years you have sat by and reaped the glory of being wiz kids while contributing absolutely nothing of tangible meaning to the change and philosophy you claim to love so much.
It was bad enough when the news articles started coming out talking about how insecure open source really had gotten simply because nobody actually paid attention. And now here we are, the free world under attack by China, after a pandemic (bad enough none of you stood up during chip shortages) and yet you still sit there stuffing your face with hot pockets doing nothing.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say DO SOMETHING! Put your hardware and software knowledge to use and get us away from China. Legions of nerds, I’m calling YOU out! GET UP!
Help me Obi Wan Kenobi!