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Paul
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LED light bulbs

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Again a product that is practically impossible to find. In a very short time, China has completely taken over this segment.
Until the beginning of this century, Philips lamps were produced in the Netherlands, later this became Poland, but for a few years now it is completely produced in China.
Not only Philips but also other well-known brands such as Osram, GE and Sylvania have moved their production to China. Only special lamps, spots and car lighting are often made outside of China.
But the standard bulbs, like we all have many in our house, almost all come from China.
There is one exception, which is only for the US market, and that is Sylvania. Sylvania makes a range of LED bulbs, made in USA (from US and global parts).
All Sylvania bulbs in Europe just come from China. :(
A brand that has given it a try is Osram, which had set up a LED bulbs factory in Germany. However, this product has only been around for a few years and Osram has stopped producing them a few years ago. It was probably not sold because the average consumer prefers to buy a Chinese bulb for 10 cents less…

If anyone else has any tips, I'd love to hear them. Especially the 230v E27 Euro bulbs are very interesting to me.


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Update, it seems (some) Philips Hue bulbs in the USA are made in Mexico.
All Hue products in Europe are made in China.
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Every time I am in the hardware store, I faithfully turn all the boxes again to see if I might be able to find an E27 LED lamp that does not come from China.
As always, all Philips, Osram, Sylvania, etc.. are all made in China. :(
And then my eye fell on a discount package of 3 Osram (Ledvance) lamps with "made in Germany and a German flag" on the front. And also other discount packages of 3 and 5 pieces, which did not say "Made in Germany" on the front but on the back!!
Hallelujah, how happy I was! I felt like a kid in a candy store! :D :D

Osram used to produce a certain line of LED lamps in Germany. However, this has not been for many years and those lamps are really nowhere to be found. I sometimes saw them on some webshops, but after ordering they all turned out to be made in China, of course returned to sender!

Whether these lamps that I found at a fairly large hardware store chain in Europe may be old stock or new stock is unclear to me. I can't find any dates on the packaging. The store is big and it is not logical that they have 10 year old stock. But perhaps the general warehouse does not work with first in first out, who knows. It could however also be that Osram started producing some E27 bulbs in Germany again. The single packed identical bulbs were all made in China, which is quite odd.

In any case, I immediately bought 7 boxes (21 lamps), so I'm covered for almost the rest of my life. No more made in China bulbs for me! :D
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Wow, I'm jealous, Paul!

About a year ago I purchased a few boxes of LED bulbs from my electric company which, of course, were made in China. Within 6 months I ran through 6 bulbs--each of which were supposed to last for 10 years. It's shocking how brainwashed we have all been at not even questioning when things break because "they're so cheap". But in the long run, it costs us a lot more financially, and it costs the planet as all of this junk ends up in landfills.

For readers in the USA, here's how you can purchase the products that Paul referenced:

A19 light bulb (60W equivalent) from Sylvania
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A21 light bulb (75W equivalent) from Sylvania
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Of course, they use the weasel wording "MADE IN THE USA from us and global parts". My guess is the 2018 tariffs changed the economics for Sylvania that it got them to open up some plants in Pennsylvania and Kentucky, assembling the light bulbs using parts from China. But at least it's a good step--one more fairly paid worker in the USA and one less slave laborer in China (not to mention one less dollar going to find the PLA) is a plus in my book.

Thanks for sharing, and keep posting these great finds! :)
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These are “NOS” “new old stock” products… 😔 The 2 US factories were old incandescent light bulb factories that were converted to LED when Sylvania / OSRAM was still German owned, but then that division of OSRAM was sold to a Chinese company, and they closed both the PA & KY factories with in a year & had nothing to do with the tariffs. It really is unfortunate that we have to depend on China for lightbulbs! I believe there are still some European factories making specialty lighting under this ownership, but not sure. CREE LED chips are still Made in USA, but not the actual bulbs. Maybe the new owners will bring that back…?
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I found these on Amazon, FEIT Electric. Country of origin is USA

https://www.amazon.com/Feit-Electric-OM ... Bsmart[img][/img]&qid=1681655308&s=hi&sprefix=LED%2Blight%2Bbulb%2Bsmart%2Ctools%2C145&sr=1-10&th=1


With all the over-regulation we have in the US, you'd think we could require that 1) country of origin is more prominently shown on packaging, and 2) that e-commerce sites allow you to filter searches on country of origin. Takes WAY too much work to find products like this.

Thanks for creating this site, it's a good start.
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I've read earlier that Sylvania makes LED lights somewhere else than China, so I bought several here in Finland, only to find out that they were in fact made in China :evil:
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materials wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:34 am I've read earlier that Sylvania makes LED lights somewhere else than China, so I bought several here in Finland, only to find out that they were in fact made in China :evil:
This is only for the US made models that are available in the USA. All the models available in Europe are made in China.
Just send it back!
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